this is the lifeline that will bring back the automobile industry in america, which has been hurting very badly, and americans are buying these automobiles because they've been, you know, racking up 100,000 miles on cars and now they have a chance to get into a new car, which americans love to do. they love to buy cars. this is their chance to do it. >> if i gave you $50,000 right now mr. secretary, what car would you buy? what's the best -- how about if i give you $30,000? what's the best car to get out there? >> i have my eye on an explorer, four-wheel drive, but i have a '97 buick regal that doesn't qualify for the program. i may still buy the explorer. i have been talking to a dealer back in peoria about this, but i would buy a ford explorer. >> i think it's the greatest program -- >> and by the -- >> it's a chance for the guy working his butt off on some car line to produce something that's going to sell, it will empty the car lots. was it your idea? this idea to get cash for clunkers? >> i wish it was. it was somebody in congress. actually, it was a couple people in congress, a